Today we talk with Rick Helwig, founder of one of the biggest weatherization contracting firms in the Midwest.  His crew of 75 full time employees is an awesome mix of family business with large-scale organization, and of high performance science with Chicago-style practicality. 

Today we talk with Mike Gorman, the mind behind the business training and consulting firm TechKnowledge, on the disconnect between building science and business practice in today's rapidly evolving high performance contracting industry.